{"id":19565,"date":"2022-03-13T06:05:00","date_gmt":"2022-03-13T05:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omnesmag.com\/?p=19565"},"modified":"2022-03-16T13:05:12","modified_gmt":"2022-03-16T12:05:12","slug":"interview-cardinal-czerny-guerre-dukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/fr\/actualidad\/entrevista-cardenal-czerny-ucrania-guerra\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>Cardinal Czerny<\/b>La religion peut d\u00e9montrer l'unit\u00e9 que la guerre tend \u00e0 d\u00e9truire\"."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L'envoy\u00e9 sp\u00e9cial du pape Fran\u00e7ois, le cardinal Michael Czerny, a pass\u00e9 trois jours dans une Ukraine d\u00e9chir\u00e9e par la guerre. \"Le mien, a expliqu\u00e9 le pr\u00e9fet ad interim du Dicast\u00e8re pour le service du d\u00e9veloppement humain int\u00e9gral, est un parcours de pri\u00e8re, de proph\u00e9tie et de d\u00e9nonciation. Je quitte Rome le 8 mars pour Budapest et je continuerai \u00e0 rencontrer les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s et les personnes d\u00e9plac\u00e9es, ainsi que ceux qui les accueillent et les aident\". Il est rentr\u00e9 \u00e0 Rome le vendredi 11 mars, jour o\u00f9 il accorde cette interview \u00e0 Omnes pour raconter ses impressions. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Vous avez \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9 dans cette \"mission sp\u00e9ciale\" en Ukraine sur ordre du Pape pendant plusieurs jours, quelles ont \u00e9t\u00e9 vos impressions et comment avez-vous vu la situation de l\u00e0-bas ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Au cours de ces trois jours de mission, j'ai \u00e9t\u00e9 en contact avec des situations diff\u00e9rentes, mais toutes avaient en commun la douleur : des m\u00e8res c\u00e9libataires avec leurs enfants sans mari, des personnes \u00e2g\u00e9es oblig\u00e9es de se d\u00e9placer m\u00eame s'il leur est difficile de marcher ; des enfants, beaucoup d'enfants ; des \u00e9tudiants d'Asie et d'Afrique \u00e9vacu\u00e9s du jour au lendemain, oblig\u00e9s de geler leurs \u00e9tudes. J'ai pu r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence entre la guerre v\u00e9cue \u00e0 travers les m\u00e9dias et la guerre transmise par la souffrance des gens. Cette derni\u00e8re est une douleur qui va directement \u00e0 l'estomac et au c\u0153ur. Et aussi comment ce conflit cause d'\u00e9normes dommages \u00e0 un monde qui connaissait d\u00e9j\u00e0 des conditions de vuln\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 dues \u00e0 la pand\u00e9mie et \u00e0 la crise environnementale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"960\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-960x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-19567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-960x1024.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-600x640.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-657x700.jpg 657w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-281x300.jpg 281w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927-768x819.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522927.jpg 1420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Votre intention \u00e9tait, avant tout, de rapprocher le Pape des chr\u00e9tiens. Comment avez-vous r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 transmettre cela ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Ce que le Saint-P\u00e8re a dit lors de l'Ang\u00e9lus au cours duquel il a annonc\u00e9 ma mission et celle du cardinal Konrad Krajewski correspondait exactement au but de la mission : porter \u00e0 la connaissance du peuple l'attention, les espoirs, les angoisses et l'engagement actif du Pape dans la recherche de la paix. J'ai essay\u00e9 d'atteindre cet objectif, tout d'abord, par ce que j'appelle le \"sacrement de la pr\u00e9sence\", c'est-\u00e0-dire en \u00e9tant physiquement pr\u00e9sent dans les lieux de douleur, qui, \u00e0 Budapest, \u00e9taient des gares, des centres d'accueil, des paroisses. Parfois, les mots ne sont pas n\u00e9cessaires. Par exemple, le dernier jour en Hongrie, j'ai rencontr\u00e9 des femmes de Kiev et d'autres villes ukrainiennes : il m'a suffi d'\u00e9couter leurs histoires, de les assurer de mes pri\u00e8res et de leur donner une b\u00e9n\u00e9diction pour leur apporter un r\u00e9confort \u00e9vident.<\/p>\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n\t<p><p>J'ai essay\u00e9 d'atteindre cet objectif par ce que j'appelle le \"sacrement de la pr\u00e9sence\", en me rendant physiquement sur les lieux de la douleur. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n\t<cite>Cardinal Michael Czerny<span>Pr\u00e9fet ad interim du Dicast\u00e8re pour le service du d\u00e9veloppement humain int\u00e9gral<\/span><\/cite>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pouvait-il \u00e9galement apporter une aide mat\u00e9rielle comme il le souhaitait ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En Hongrie et lors de mon s\u00e9jour en Ukraine mercredi dernier, j'ai pu apporter une aide mat\u00e9rielle et spirituelle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>L'accompagnement spirituel des chr\u00e9tiens est-il garanti, malgr\u00e9 les difficult\u00e9s ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Absolument, et c'est l'une des choses qui m'a le plus frapp\u00e9 pendant le voyage. Pour voir une \u00c9glise qui \"sort\" vraiment, comme le souhaite le Saint-P\u00e8re. Les pr\u00eatres, m\u00eame ceux des \u00e9glises orientales avec leurs familles, qui ne quittent pas le territoire pour \u00eatre proches des gens. Ou encore des communaut\u00e9s comme Sant'Egidio qui, outre la cr\u00e9ation d'un refuge dans la paroisse, ont le souci d'organiser des initiatives de pri\u00e8re avec les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s qu'elles accueillent. Ou encore le Service j\u00e9suite des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s, qui propose des formations aux b\u00e9n\u00e9voles afin qu'ils puissent mieux r\u00e9pondre aux besoins r\u00e9els des personnes qui fuient. Il s'agit d'un travail important et il est bon de voir que non seulement l'\u00c9glise catholique mais aussi toutes les autres d\u00e9nominations s'y emploient.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-19568\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-700x467.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/20220310T0900-CZERNY-UKRAINE-HUNGARY-1522917.jpg 1420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quel r\u00f4le la religion joue-t-elle dans le conflit ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-La religion peut d\u00e9montrer l'unit\u00e9 que la guerre tend \u00e0 d\u00e9truire. Par exemple, lors de ma visite dans le village de Beregove, dans l'ouest de l'Ukraine, j'ai \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s impressionn\u00e9 de voir des catholiques de rite latin, des catholiques grecs, des protestants, des r\u00e9form\u00e9s, des juifs, se rassembler pour partager le travail de l'urgence pour les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s. Une \u00e9norme urgence qui ne peut \u00eatre abord\u00e9e qu'ensemble. \"Il n'y a pas de distinctions, nous sommes tous le bon Samaritain appel\u00e9 \u00e0 aider les autres maintenant\", a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 un pasteur lors de ce dialogue tr\u00e8s franc et fraternel. Cela m'a r\u00e9confort\u00e9, c'est vraiment le signe d'une \u00c9glise vivante.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Comment voyez-vous l'avenir de la guerre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-La guerre n'a pas d'avenir, en fait elle est la destruction de tout l'avenir. Nous devons apprendre une autre fa\u00e7on de r\u00e9soudre les conflits et les tensions. J'esp\u00e8re en ce bon Dieu qui met le sort du monde entre de pauvres mains humaines.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Durante tres d\u00edas ha estado el enviado especial del Papa Francisco, el cardenal Michael Czerny, en Ucrania, devastado por la guerra. \u00abEl m\u00edo\u00bb, explicaba el tambi\u00e9n Prefecto ad interim del Dicasterio para el Servicio del Desarrollo Humano Integral, \u00abes un viaje de oraci\u00f3n, profec\u00eda y denuncia. Dejo Roma el 8 de marzo para llegar a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":19566,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[36,46],"tags":[233,6,396,641],"class_list":["post-19565","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualidad","category-mundo","tag-entrevistas","tag-europa","tag-papa-francisco","tag-ucrania"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Card. 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