{"id":22572,"date":"2022-08-05T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-05T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omnesmag.com\/?p=22572"},"modified":"2025-11-13T10:47:11","modified_gmt":"2025-11-13T08:47:11","slug":"pablo-delclaux-el-patrimonio-de-la-iglesia-genera-un-217-del-pib-y-225-000-empleos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/actualidad\/pablo-delclaux-el-patrimonio-de-la-iglesia-genera-un-217-del-pib-y-225-000-empleos\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>Pablo Delclaux<\/b>W\u0142asno\u015b\u0107 ko\u015bcielna generuje 2,17% PKB i 225 tys. miejsc pracy\"."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Podkomisja Episkopatu ds. dziedzictwa kulturowego Konferencji Episkopatu Hiszpanii organizuje co roku w czerwcu <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conferenciaepiscopal.es\/jornadas-patrimonio-cultural-2022\/\">dni dziedzictwa<\/a>. S\u0105 one skierowane do delegat\u00f3w diecezjalnych, kwestor\u00f3w, dyrektor\u00f3w muze\u00f3w, innymi s\u0142owy - zarz\u0105dc\u00f3w dziedzictwa ko\u015bcielnego. Rozmawiali\u015bmy z jednym z organizator\u00f3w spotkania, Pablo Delclaux, kt\u00f3ry jest tak\u017ce sekretarzem technicznym podkomisji Episkopatu ds. dziedzictwa EWG.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Od 27 do 30 czerwca w Barbastro odby\u0142a si\u0119 konferencja po\u015bwi\u0119cona dziedzictwu kulturowemu i rozwojowi lokalnemu. Jakie pomys\u0142y wyr\u00f3\u017cni\u0142by Pan z refleksji tych dni?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">- Tegoroczny temat jest konsekwencj\u0105 wyludnienia niekt\u00f3rych obszar\u00f3w Hiszpanii. Szukali\u015bmy sposob\u00f3w, w jaki dziedzictwo ko\u015bcielne mo\u017ce przyczyni\u0107 si\u0119 do wzrostu tych miejscowo\u015bci oraz wykorzystania tego dziedzictwa, aby nie uleg\u0142o degradacji.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Podkre\u015blam, \u017ce w Hiszpanii mamy wiele dziedzictwa i bior\u0105c pod uwag\u0119 obecn\u0105 sytuacj\u0119 nie jest \u0142atwo nim zarz\u0105dza\u0107. Nie jest \u0142atwo uog\u00f3lnia\u0107 rozwi\u0105zania, bior\u0105c pod uwag\u0119 r\u00f3\u017cnice mi\u0119dzy jednym miastem a drugim. Na przyk\u0142ad w niekt\u00f3rych miejscach s\u0105 go\u015bcie i tury\u015bci, a dla innych jest to prawie niemo\u017cliwe.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Parafie, diecezje i zakony, instytucje prywatne (hotele, gastronomia, rzemios\u0142o) oraz instytucje publiczne musz\u0105 po\u0142\u0105czy\u0107 si\u0142y, aby znale\u017a\u0107 najlepsze rozwi\u0105zanie dla ka\u017cdej lokalizacji.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Czy my w Hiszpanii cenimy dziedzictwo kulturowe, kt\u00f3re posiadamy?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">- Mamy wiele dziedzictwa, ale by\u0107 mo\u017ce nie cenimy go nale\u017cycie. W innych krajach ceni\u0105 j\u0105 bardziej, mo\u017ce dlatego, \u017ce maj\u0105 mniej i ceni\u0105 j\u0105 bardziej. W ka\u017cdym zak\u0105tku Hiszpanii mamy cude\u0144ka najwy\u017cszej jako\u015bci.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mentalno\u015b\u0107 francuska i w\u0142oska jest bardziej dekoracyjna i szczeg\u00f3\u0142owa, podczas gdy w Hiszpanii jeste\u015bmy bardziej surowi. Najog\u00f3lniej m\u00f3wi\u0105c, sztuka w\u0142oska jest bardzo teatralna, francuska bardzo elegancka, niemiecka bardzo dramatyczna. Sztuka hiszpa\u0144ska charakteryzuje si\u0119 g\u0142\u0119bi\u0105 znacze\u0144. Oznacza to, \u017ce mamy sztuk\u0119 o du\u017cej zawarto\u015bci tre\u015bci, cho\u0107 nie jest ona tak bardzo dekoracyjna. Wydaje mi si\u0119, \u017ce mogliby\u015bmy by\u0107 bardziej \u015bwiadomi znaczenia naszego dziedzictwa, skupiamy si\u0119 bardziej na formie, a mniej na tre\u015bci. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce powinni\u015bmy znacznie bardziej eksploatowa\u0107 cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 tre\u015bciow\u0105, tak aby bardziej z ni\u0105 drga\u0107.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>W ostatnich miesi\u0105cach w mediach pojawi\u0142o si\u0119 troch\u0119 szumu na temat m.in. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/aktualnosci\/eksperci-podkreslaja-legalnosc-rejestracji-kosciolow\/\">immatrykulacje<\/a>. W zwi\u0105zku z t\u0105 kwesti\u0105, jak\u0105 ide\u0119 chcia\u0142by\u015b, aby spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwo lepiej zrozumia\u0142o?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">- Nale\u017cy wyja\u015bni\u0107 kilka aspekt\u00f3w. Po pierwsze, ksi\u0119gi wieczyste narodzi\u0142y si\u0119 w XIX wieku, a ich celem by\u0142o sprecyzowanie w\u0142a\u015bcicieli poszczeg\u00f3lnych maj\u0105tk\u00f3w. Chodzi\u0142o o to, \u017ce w\u0142a\u015bciwo\u015bci Ko\u015bcio\u0142a by\u0142y do\u015b\u0107 jasne i nie generowa\u0142y specjalnych problem\u00f3w prawnych. Dlatego nie zosta\u0142y nigdzie zarejestrowane. W miar\u0119 up\u0142ywu lat pojawia\u0142y si\u0119 jednak w\u0105tpliwo\u015bci i procesy s\u0105dowe dotycz\u0105ce w\u0142asno\u015bci Ko\u015bcio\u0142a. Dlatego, aby uporz\u0105dkowa\u0107 sprawy, pa\u0144stwo hiszpa\u0144skie zwr\u00f3ci\u0142o si\u0119 do Ko\u015bcio\u0142a o zarejestrowanie swoich d\u00f3br.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Problem w tym, \u017ce wiele budynk\u00f3w poprzedza\u0142o powstanie rejestru, wi\u0119c nie by\u0142o dokumentacji, kt\u00f3r\u0105 mo\u017cna by przedstawi\u0107. Rz\u0105d Aznara zezwoli\u0142 biskupom na certyfikowanie tych nieruchomo\u015bci, aby ten papier by\u0142 wa\u017cny przy rejestracji tych nieruchomo\u015bci w urz\u0119dzie cywilnym.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>W wielu cz\u0119\u015bciach Hiszpanii jest wiele ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w, w kt\u00f3rych prawie nic si\u0119 nie dzieje. Co Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 planuje zrobi\u0107 z tymi ko\u015bcio\u0142ami?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">- Przede wszystkim trzeba powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce to zale\u017cy od ka\u017cdej diecezji i nawet wtedy jest wiele niuans\u00f3w. Na przyk\u0142ad klasztory nale\u017c\u0105 do zakon\u00f3w i dlatego nie podlegaj\u0105 jurysdykcji biskupiej. Z kolei parafie zamkni\u0119te w \u015brodowiskach miejskich mog\u0105 by\u0107 przekszta\u0142cone w muzea lub archiwa diecezjalne.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W Hiszpanii jest wiele miejsc kultu, kt\u00f3re zosta\u0142y ponownie wykorzystane do cel\u00f3w kulturalnych. Mamy przypadek <a href=\"https:\/\/espaciopirineos.com\/\">Przestrze\u0144 Pirenej\u00f3w<\/a>czyli przekszta\u0142cenie rezydencji jezuit\u00f3w w centrum wystawienniczo-szkoleniowe w Graus. Mamy te\u017c <a href=\"https:\/\/centros.culturadecantabria.com\/centro-de-estudios-lebaniegos\/\">Centrum Studi\u00f3w Lebaniegos<\/a>w Potes, w kt\u00f3rym ponownie wykorzystano ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 \u015bw. Wincentego M\u0119czennika. Albo Centrum Kultury San Marcos, kt\u00f3re adaptuje ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 o tej samej nazwie w Toledo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sagrada Familia czy katedra-Mezquita w Kordobie s\u0105 licznie odwiedzane przez turyst\u00f3w. Czy istniej\u0105 jakie\u015b skontrolowane lub wiarygodne dane dotycz\u0105ce dochod\u00f3w ekonomicznych, jakie patrymonium Ko\u015bcio\u0142a przynosi pa\u0144stwu hiszpa\u0144skiemu?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">- Kilka lat temu konferencja biskup\u00f3w przedstawi\u0142a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.servimedia.es\/noticias\/587960\">studium<\/a> kt\u00f3ra kwantyfikowa\u0142a ten typ aspektu. Prace przeprowadzi\u0142a firma audytorska KPMG i stwierdzi\u0142a, \u017ce dziedzictwo Ko\u015bcio\u0142a wygenerowa\u0142o 2,17% PKB. Ponadto katolickie dobra kultury wspieraj\u0105 225 300 miejsc pracy, z czego 71% to miejsca pracy bezpo\u015brednie. Tego typu dane mo\u017cna sprawdzi\u0107 w <a href=\"http:\/\/transparenciaconferenciaepiscopal.es\/accultural.html\">portal przejrzysto\u015bci<\/a> EWG. Jak wida\u0107, wk\u0142ad jest do\u015b\u0107 znacz\u0105cy.\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La subcomisi\u00f3n episcopal para el patrimonio cultural de la Conferencia Episcopal Espa\u00f1ola organiza todos los a\u00f1os en el mes de junio unas jornadas sobre patrimonio. Est\u00e1n destinadas a los delegados diocesanos, ec\u00f3nomos, responsables de museos, es decir, gestores del patrimonio eclesi\u00e1stico. Charlamos con uno de los organizadores del encuentro, D. 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