{"id":29372,"date":"2023-03-24T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-03-24T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omnesmag.com\/?p=29372"},"modified":"2023-03-07T09:54:04","modified_gmt":"2023-03-07T08:54:04","slug":"wywiad-mariano-pablo-ugarte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/actualidad\/experiencias\/entrevista-mariano-pablo-ugarte\/","title":{"rendered":"Mariano Ugarte: \"Choroba dziecka dotyka wielu ludzi\"."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mariano jest kapitanem w hiszpa\u0144skiej marynarce wojennej. T\u0119skni za \u017ceglarstwem, kt\u00f3rego nie uprawia\u0142 od dziesi\u0119ciu lat, ale jest niezmiernie szcz\u0119\u015bliwy. Jest \u017conaty z Dori od 1986 roku i razem maj\u0105 pi\u0119cioro dzieci: Dori, Mariano, Pablo, Quique i Mart\u0119. Trzecie, Pablo, czeka na nich w niebie.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pablo urodzi\u0142 si\u0119 w 2000 roku, a zmar\u0142 w 2010 roku. \"<em>By\u0142 bardzo normalnym dzieckiem. Bardzo przystojny, \u017cywy, bardzo \u017cywio\u0142owy\".<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pewnego dnia Pablo zacz\u0105\u0142 odczuwa\u0107 b\u00f3l w biodrze. Zdiagnozowano u niego nowotw\u00f3r ko\u015bci: mi\u0119saka Ewinga, kt\u00f3ry w przypadku nawrotu ma prawie 100% \u015bmiertelno\u015b\u0107. Zar\u00f3wno on, jak i jego \u017cona powiedzieli: <em>\"To si\u0119 leczy, to si\u0119 leczy i to wszystko\". <\/em>Fenomenalnie poradzili sobie z chorob\u0105, w dobrych humorach.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dziecko nadal ucz\u0119szcza\u0142o do szko\u0142y i t\u0119skni\u0142o za kolegami, gdy nie mog\u0142o do niej ucz\u0119szcza\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mariano by\u0142 przekonany, \u017ce Pablo pokona swoj\u0105 chorob\u0119. Modli\u0142 si\u0119 i by\u0142 pewien, \u017ce z pomoc\u0105 modlitwy Pawe\u0142 zostanie uzdrowiony. <em>\"Ale zbawienie jest inne, nie jest skupione materialnie\".<\/em>zauwa\u017ca. Choroba Pabla skomplikowa\u0142a si\u0119 i zmar\u0142 on w Madrycie p\u00f3\u0142tora roku po diagnozie. <em>\"Kiedy Pawe\u0142 mia\u0142 umrze\u0107, dotyka\u0142em go i pie\u015bci\u0142em my\u015bl\u0105c: dotykam cia\u0142a kogo\u015b, kto wkr\u00f3tce b\u0119dzie z Bogiem\".<\/em>Mariano, kt\u00f3ry wyznaje jak on <em>\"Utrata bliskiej osoby, dziecka, bezradnego, kt\u00f3remu m\u00f3wi\u0142a\u015b, \u017ce wyzdrowieje, jest trudna.<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Moment jego \u015bmierci wywo\u0142a\u0142 wielki wewn\u0119trzny spok\u00f3j, bo wiedzieli, \u017ce zrobili wszystko, co mo\u017cliwe i \u017ce ich syn zosta\u0142 odprowadzony.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mariano nie zapomina o ogromnej sympatii, jak\u0105 go obdarzono: <em>\"Armada\", przyjaciele, koledzy, znajomi, s\u0105siedzi z Colmenar Viejo, wszyscy si\u0119 zaanga\u017cowali. Choroba dziecka dotyka nie tylko kilku, ale wielu: szko\u0142\u0119, pi\u0142k\u0119 no\u017cn\u0105, teatr, judo, s\u0105siedztwo. Ka\u017cdy odczuwa chorob\u0119 jak swoj\u0105 w\u0142asn\u0105\",<\/em> wyznaje z dum\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jego najstarsza c\u00f3rka mia\u0142a 14 lat, gdy Pablo zmar\u0142. <em>\"Nie dali\u015bmy im szansy na zbytnie przemy\u015blenie sprawy, ani na rozklejenie si\u0119, a po dw\u00f3ch dniach wszyscy byli ju\u017c w szkole, bez mo\u017cliwo\u015bci protestu. Trzeba by\u0142o zaj\u0105\u0107 si\u0119 \u017cyciem,<\/em> zapewnia Mariano.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wspomina, jak w ostatnich dniach Paw\u0142a na ziemi lekarz powiedzia\u0142 im, \u017ce nic nie da si\u0119 zrobi\u0107: \"...lekarz powiedzia\u0142 im: 'Nie zamierzam nic z tym zrobi\u0107.<em>Kiedy dosta\u0142em t\u0119 wiadomo\u015b\u0107 my\u015bla\u0142em, \u017ce \u017cartuje, bo widzia\u0142em, \u017ce m\u00f3j syn wygl\u0105da fenomenalnie\".<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To \"non stop\" by\u0142o tym, co sprawi\u0142o, \u017ce <em>w\u0142\u0105czy\u0142 \u017car\u00f3wk\u0119<\/em>: <em>\"Nie mog\u0142am usta\u0107 w miejscu\".<\/em>. Po \u015bmierci Pabla zapyta\u0142 onkologa, co mog\u0105 zrobi\u0107, aby wspiera\u0107 projekty badawcze. To doprowadzi\u0142o ich do lekarza, kt\u00f3ry prowadzi\u0142 badania w inny spos\u00f3b i za\u0142o\u017cyli grup\u0119 os\u00f3b, kt\u00f3ra mia\u0142a wspiera\u0107 te badania. <em>\"W ci\u0105gu dw\u00f3ch dni zg\u0142osi\u0142o si\u0119 400 os\u00f3b i nie mogli\u015bmy po prostu wys\u0142a\u0107 pieni\u0119dzy do \u015bledczego\",<\/em> Mariano wspomina. Tak narodzi\u0142a si\u0119 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asociacionpablougarte.es\/\">Stowarzyszenie Pablo Ugarte,<\/a> poprzez kt\u00f3r\u0105 te pieni\u0105dze s\u0105 przekazywane i wspieraj\u0105 projekty bada\u0144 nad rakiem u dzieci. Pablo odszed\u0142 27 listopada 2010 roku, a pierwsze spotkanie fundacji odby\u0142o si\u0119 w niedziel\u0119 16 stycznia 2011 roku, co zbieg\u0142o si\u0119 z jego urodzinami.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> Od tego czasu Stowarzyszenie Pablo Ugarte rozwija si\u0119, pomagaj\u0105c badaniom we wszystkich aspektach. Rozmawiaj\u0105c z rodzicami chorych dzieci, Mariano m\u00f3wi im: <em>\"Nie jestem psychologiem, mog\u0119 poda\u0107 r\u0119k\u0119, opowiedzie\u0107 o swoich do\u015bwiadczeniach, powiedzie\u0107, co prze\u017cy\u0142am\".<\/em> Stara si\u0119 im pom\u00f3c i sprawi\u0107, by zobaczyli mo\u017cliwo\u015bci. Prowadz\u0105 29 projekt\u00f3w badawczych w ca\u0142ej Hiszpanii. <em>\"Wspieramy ich na wiele sposob\u00f3w. Wytyczne dotycz\u0105ce tego, gdzie s\u0105 najlepiej leczeni z powodu tego czy innego nowotworu lub je\u015bli potrzebuj\u0105 drugiej opinii. Mamy dobr\u0105 grup\u0119 lekarzy, kt\u00f3rzy daj\u0105 im swoj\u0105 opini\u0119. Uda\u0142o nam si\u0119 r\u00f3wnie\u017c przyspieszy\u0107 terminy wizyt,<\/em> m\u00f3wi Mariano. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kiedy dzieci przyje\u017cd\u017caj\u0105 z miejsc, kt\u00f3re nie maj\u0105 szpitali ze skierowaniem, rozmawiaj\u0105 z lekarzami i przyjmuj\u0105 je jak najszybciej. Wiele os\u00f3b uczestniczy w Stowarzyszeniu Pablo Ugarte. S\u0105 transparentni w kwestii tego, co robi\u0105 ze swoimi pieni\u0119dzmi, wyja\u015bniaj\u0105c, kto przekazuje darowizny i na co przeznaczane s\u0105 otrzymane pieni\u0105dze. <em>\"Cieszymy si\u0119 du\u017cym zaufaniem os\u00f3b, kt\u00f3re nale\u017c\u0105 do tej cennej inicjatywy\", <\/em>Mariano zaznacza. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rodzina, kt\u00f3rej cierpienie nie zablokowa\u0142o ani nie sparali\u017cowa\u0142o ich, ale pos\u0142u\u017cy\u0142o jako bodziec do pomocy tak wielu innym. Jestem pewien, \u017ce Pawe\u0142 patrzy na nich z dum\u0105 z nieba. <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mariano es capit\u00e1n de nav\u00edo de la Armada Espa\u00f1ola. Echa de menos navegar, algo que lleva diez a\u00f1os sin hacer, pero es inmensamente feliz. Desde 1986 est\u00e1 casado con Dori y juntos tienen cinco hijos: Dori, Mariano, Pablo, Quique y Marta. 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