{"id":35509,"date":"2023-11-24T23:58:51","date_gmt":"2023-11-24T21:58:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omnesmag.com\/?p=35509"},"modified":"2025-12-03T12:37:14","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T10:37:14","slug":"wywiad-jacques-philippe-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/foco\/entrevista-jacques-philippe-foro\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>Jacques Philippe<\/b>Czasami trzeba zmierzy\u0107 si\u0119 z w\u0142asn\u0105 n\u0119dz\u0105, aby zacz\u0105\u0107 wo\u0142a\u0107 do Boga\"."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jacques Philippe podzieli\u0142 si\u0119 wieczorem 24 listopada z ponad dwustoma osobami na Forum Omnes \"Czy potrzebujemy Boga? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Spotkanie odby\u0142o si\u0119 na Uniwersytecie Villanueva w Madrycie i by\u0142o sponsorowane przez Fundacj\u0119 Carf i Banco Sabadell, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/focus\/jacques-philippe-modlitwa-jest-przed-wszystkim-welcome-a-presence\/\">Philippe<\/a> zastanawia\u0142 si\u0119 nad nieobecno\u015bci\u0105 Boga, co oznacza zanik nadziei i mi\u0142osierdzia lub konieczno\u015b\u0107 synowskiej relacji z Bogiem dla pe\u0142nego \u017cycia dzisiejszego cz\u0142owieka. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Forum, kt\u00f3re b\u0119dzie dost\u0119pne na kanale Omnes YouTube w najbli\u017cszej przysz\u0142o\u015bci i b\u0119dzie g\u0142\u00f3wnym tematem sekcji Do\u015bwiadczenia w drukowanym wydaniu Omnes z grudnia 2023 r., wzbudzi\u0142o ogromne oczekiwania. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/aktualnosci\/jacques-philippe-in-the-omnes-forum-this-time-of-pandemia-is-also-an-invitation-to-follow-jesus-christ\/\">Jacques Philippe<\/a> jest autorem licznych ksi\u0105\u017cek na temat \u017cycia duchowego, w tym mi\u0119dzy innymi takich tytu\u0142\u00f3w jak \"Wewn\u0119trzna wolno\u015b\u0107\", \"Czas dla Boga\" i \"Duchowe ojcostwo kap\u0142ana\". <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"920\" height=\"526\" src=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2.jpg\" alt=\"Jacques Philippe\" class=\"wp-image-35511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2.jpg 920w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2-700x400.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2-768x439.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Philippe_2-600x343.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 920px) 100vw, 920px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Zdj\u0119cie uczestnik\u00f3w Forum Omnes z Jacques'em Philippe'em na Uniwersytecie Villanueva w Madrycie \u00a9J.L. Pindado<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">W naszym \u015bwiecie istnieje naprzemienny paradoks oczywistej sekularyzacji i wzrostu nowych duchowo\u015bci. Czy uwa\u017casz, \u017ce \u0142atwiej jest dotrze\u0107 do Boga poprzez ten \"spirytualizm\", czy wr\u0119cz przeciwnie, jest to bardziej myl\u0105ce?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Istnieje wiele mo\u017cliwych \u015bcie\u017cek. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce s\u0105 ludzie, kt\u00f3rzy s\u0105 w ateizmie, kt\u00f3rzy mog\u0105 odczuwa\u0107 pustk\u0119, poniewa\u017c w pewnym sensie cz\u0142owiek nie mo\u017ce obej\u015b\u0107 si\u0119 bez duchowo\u015bci. I by\u0107 mo\u017ce ta pustka prowadzi do wiary. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Spotka\u0142em r\u00f3wnie\u017c ludzi, kt\u00f3rzy najpierw przeszli przez nowe duchowo\u015bci, poniewa\u017c szukali sensu lub w ich \u017cyciu by\u0142o co\u015b z\u0142ego, czemu chcieli zaradzi\u0107, i dotkn\u0119li tu i tam, a sko\u0144czyli w Ko\u015bciele. Nie mam statystyk, ale my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce tak w\u0142a\u015bnie jest! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pi\u0119knie jest widzie\u0107, jak r\u00f3\u017cne s\u0105 \u015bcie\u017cki ludzi: kto\u015b z ca\u0142kowicie ateistycznej rodziny, kt\u00f3ry staje si\u0119 wierz\u0105cy lub kto\u015b, kto jest buddyst\u0105 \"do ostatniego w\u0142osa\", kt\u00f3ry spotyka Chrystusa....<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">M\u00f3wi si\u0119 o \u015bwiecie w kryzysie, Ko\u015bciele w kryzysie, humanizmie w kryzysie - czy jest pow\u00f3d do nadziei?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Tak, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce tak. Poniewa\u017c B\u00f3g jest wierny. Czasami cz\u0142owiek mo\u017ce Go opu\u015bci\u0107 - co dzieje si\u0119 dzisiaj - ale B\u00f3g nie opuszcza cz\u0142owieka. Wierz\u0119, \u017ce B\u00f3g znajdzie spos\u00f3b, by si\u0119 objawi\u0107 i przyci\u0105gn\u0105\u0107 serca do siebie. \u017be znajdzie spos\u00f3b, by o\u015bwiadczy\u0107 si\u0119 wszystkim ludziom. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nie chodzi tylko o mechanizmy historyczne, socjologiczne, kt\u00f3re oczywi\u015bcie maj\u0105 swoje znaczenie i swoj\u0105 cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 prawdy, ale w g\u0142\u0119bi duszy wierz\u0119, \u017ce istnieje projekt Boga na cz\u0142owieka i na wszech\u015bwiat. To w\u0142a\u015bnie daje mi nadziej\u0119.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Jak w spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwie naznaczonym \"ha\u0142asem\" i terminami osi\u0105gn\u0105\u0107 wewn\u0119trzn\u0105 cisz\u0119 niezb\u0119dn\u0105 do s\u0142uchania Boga?<\/h2>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-thumbnail is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-35512\" style=\"width:296px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-467x700.jpg 467w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-768x1151.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-8x12.jpg 8w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352-600x899.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/PIN0352.jpg 970w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jacques Philippe na Forum Omnes \u00a9J. L. Pindado<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-W dzisiejszych czasach jest wielu ludzi, kt\u00f3rzy chc\u0105 czego\u015b innego, kt\u00f3rzy chc\u0105 wr\u00f3ci\u0107 do natury, kt\u00f3rzy odczuwaj\u0105 potrzeb\u0119 ciszy. \u017bycia, kt\u00f3re nie jest szalone, ale spokojniejsze, powiedzmy. Widzimy to we wszystkich gazetach. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wprowadzenie tego w \u017cycie nie jest \u0142atwe, poniewa\u017c nie mo\u017cna ca\u0142kowicie odizolowa\u0107 si\u0119 od \u015bwiata. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce najwa\u017cniejsz\u0105 rzecz\u0105 jest znalezienie przestrzeni w naszych sercach. Przestrzeni ciszy, otwarto\u015bci na Boga, pokoju. Ale to oznacza odci\u0119cie si\u0119. Musimy wiedzie\u0107, jak wy\u0142\u0105czy\u0107 telefon kom\u00f3rkowy, telewizor i po\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 troch\u0119 czasu na skupienie, nawet je\u015bli jest to ma\u0142y k\u0105cik w sypialni. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oto, co m\u00f3wi Jezus: \"Gdy si\u0119 modlisz, wejd\u017a do swej izdebki, zamknij drzwi i m\u00f3dl si\u0119 do Ojca twego, kt\u00f3ry jest w ukryciu, a Ojciec tw\u00f3j, kt\u00f3ry widzi w ukryciu, wynagrodzi tobie\". To jasne. Kiedy mo\u017cemy przyprowadzi\u0107 ludzi do Ewangelii, do modlitwy, szukaj\u0105c Chrystusa, prowadzi to do zmiany w naszym \u017cyciu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Jeste\u015b autorem ksi\u0105\u017cki o duchowym ojcostwie kap\u0142ana. Czy og\u00f3lnie rzecz bior\u0105c, nasze spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwo, nawet w Ko\u015bciele, straci\u0142o koncepcj\u0119 ojcostwa?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Tak i nie. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce sprawa jest do\u015b\u0107 z\u0142o\u017cona. Prawd\u0105 jest, \u017ce w dzisiejszych czasach odrzuca si\u0119 ojcostwo, odrzuca si\u0119 Boga, ojcostwo oskar\u017ca si\u0119 o nadu\u017cycia, krytykuje si\u0119 \"patriarchalne spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwo\", ojciec jest \"wrogiem, kt\u00f3rego nale\u017cy pokona\u0107\". <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Istniej\u0105 pewne uzasadnione powody, by\u0107 mo\u017ce dlatego, \u017ce spos\u00f3b sprawowania w\u0142adzy w \u015bwiecie, a tak\u017ce w Ko\u015bciele, czasami nie by\u0142 w\u0142a\u015bciwy: nie szanowa\u0142 ludzkiej wolno\u015bci, mia\u0142 zbyt wiele w\u0142adzy, zbyt du\u017cy wp\u0142yw na ludzi, kt\u00f3ry nie prowadzi\u0142 do wolno\u015bci, \u017ce reakcja mo\u017ce by\u0107 normalna, problem polega na tym, \u017ce jest nadmierna. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W obliczu tego musimy pami\u0119ta\u0107, czym jest prawdziwe ojcostwo. Musimy powr\u00f3ci\u0107 do tajemnicy Bo\u017cego ojcostwa, a tak\u017ce potrzebujemy m\u0119\u017cczyzn, kt\u00f3rzy s\u0105 obrazem tego Bo\u017cego ojcostwa: pokornych, pe\u0142nych szacunku, kt\u00f3rzy prowadz\u0105 do wolno\u015bci i pomagaj\u0105 ludziom by\u0107 sob\u0105, a nie kim\u015b, kto ich dusi. Musimy zwr\u00f3ci\u0107 si\u0119 do Boga, promowa\u0107 prawdziwe wzorce ojcostwa i odnale\u017a\u0107 sens synostwa. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Innymi s\u0142owy, wierz\u0119, \u017ce istnieje pewna ludzka pycha, kt\u00f3ra g\u0142osi: \"Nikogo nie potrzebuj\u0119, nie chc\u0119 od nikogo zale\u017ce\u0107, sam mog\u0119 si\u0119 uratowa\u0107...\". Opr\u00f3cz powy\u017cszego, znajdujemy t\u0119 ludzk\u0105 pych\u0119, kt\u00f3ra jest sprzeczna z synowsk\u0105 postaw\u0105, zaufaniem, dyspozycyjno\u015bci\u0105. To wszystko s\u0105 rzeczy, kt\u00f3re musimy naprawi\u0107. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce bardzo pomocny mo\u017ce by\u0107 powr\u00f3t do Ewangelii, ponowne odkrycie ojcostwa Boga, nie takiego, jak cz\u0142owiek je sobie wyobra\u017ca i rzutuje na Boga, ale Boga takiego, jakim jest, takiego, jakim objawia si\u0119 na przyk\u0142ad w przypowie\u015bci o synu marnotrawnym. Ponowne poznanie prawdziwego obrazu Boga w ewangelii, a tak\u017ce odzyskanie dzieci\u0119cego, ufnego serca. To jest dzie\u0142o Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego w naszym sercu. Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego, kt\u00f3ry sprawia, \u017ce m\u00f3wimy: \"Id\u017a!<em>Abba, Ojcze!\"<\/em>kt\u00f3ry budzi w nas zaufanie, kt\u00f3ry leczy nas z l\u0119k\u00f3w i podejrze\u0144, kt\u00f3ry pozwala nam prawdziwie otworzy\u0107 si\u0119 na Boga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wierz\u0119, \u017ce najg\u0142\u0119bsze rozwi\u0105zania maj\u0105 charakter duchowy. S\u0105 rzeczy, kt\u00f3re mo\u017cna zrobi\u0107 na poziomie psychologicznym, na poziomie spo\u0142ecznym, pewne zmiany spo\u0142eczne w Ko\u015bciele... Ale podstawow\u0105 kwesti\u0105 jest ponowne spotkanie z tajemnic\u0105 \u017cywego Boga i otrzymanie \u0142aski Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego. Nowe wylanie Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego na \u015bwiat, nowa Pi\u0119\u0107dziesi\u0105tnica, w kt\u00f3rej znajdujemy si\u0119 teraz w pewien spos\u00f3b.<\/p>\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n\t<p><p>Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 nie jest instytucj\u0105 ludzk\u0105, to B\u00f3g komunikuje.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n\t<cite>Jacques Philippe. <span>Autor duchowo\u015bci<\/span><\/cite>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Czy naprawd\u0119 wierzysz, \u017ce mamy wylanie Ducha, skoro dla wielu Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 jest \u015bmiertelnie zraniony?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 zawsze prze\u017cywa\u0142 kryzys. Nigdy nie by\u0142 stabiln\u0105 instytucj\u0105. Prawie umar\u0142 sto razy. Ale Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 nie jest ludzk\u0105 instytucj\u0105, jest Bogiem, kt\u00f3ry przekazuje siebie. Tajemnica Chrystusa komunikuj\u0105cego si\u0119 \u015bwiatu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 zawsze musi by\u0107 oczyszczany i reformowany i my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to w\u0142a\u015bnie si\u0119 dzieje. Jest cierpienie, jest kwestionowanie, ale my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce widzimy r\u00f3wnie\u017c Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego w dzia\u0142aniu, kt\u00f3ry nie opuszcza swojego Ko\u015bcio\u0142a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dostrzegam wiele znak\u00f3w dzia\u0142ania Ducha \u015awi\u0119tego w Ko\u015bciele, a w ci\u0105gu ostatnich kilku lat mia\u0142y miejsce bardzo wa\u017cne duchowe odnowy. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/aktualnosci\/papiez-zacheca-do-apostolstwa-usmiechu\/\">Odnowa charyzmatyczna<\/a>r\u00f3wnie\u017c odnowa Maryjna, tak wielu ludzi, do kt\u00f3rych docieraj\u0105 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/aktualnosci\/doswiadczenia\/mons-hoser-medjugorje-pilgrimages\/\">Medjugorje<\/a>na przyk\u0142ad. Mo\u017ce nie jest to zjawisko masowe, ale jest wiele miejsc, w kt\u00f3rych mo\u017cna do\u015bwiadczy\u0107 obecno\u015bci Ducha, gdzie nast\u0119puje odnowa serc i uzdrowienie ran ducha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wierz\u0119, \u017ce ta rzeczywisto\u015b\u0107 zostanie wzmocniona. By\u0107 mo\u017ce poprzez cierpienie, czasami musimy si\u0119gn\u0105\u0107 dna, aby zn\u00f3w si\u0119 podnie\u015b\u0107. Czasami ludzie musz\u0105 stawi\u0107 czo\u0142a w\u0142asnej n\u0119dzy, swojej radykalnej bezsilno\u015bci, aby zacz\u0105\u0107 wo\u0142a\u0107 do Boga.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jacques Philippe ha compartido la tarde del 24 de noviembre con m\u00e1s de dos centenares de personas en el Foro Omnes \u00ab\u00bfNecesitamos a Dios?\u00bb. En el encuentro, celebrado en la Universidad Villanueva de Madrid y patrocinado por Fundaci\u00f3n Carf y banco Sabadell, Philippe ha reflexionado sobre la ausencia de Dios que significa la desaparici\u00f3n de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":35510,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[549,548],"tags":[1360],"class_list":["post-35509","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-evangelizacion","category-foco","tag-jacques-philippe"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Jacques Philippe: &quot;A veces, hay que ponerse ante la propia miseria para comenzar a gritar a Dios&quot;<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jacques Philippe ha sido el 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