{"id":42733,"date":"2024-10-25T12:31:16","date_gmt":"2024-10-25T10:31:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/?p=42733"},"modified":"2024-10-30T14:19:18","modified_gmt":"2024-10-30T12:19:18","slug":"fabrice-hadjadj-podsumowanie-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/actualidad\/fabrice-hadjadj-resumen-foro\/","title":{"rendered":"Fabrice Hadjadj: \"By\u0107 mo\u017ce sprawcy przekazuj\u0105 prawdziwe \u0142aski\"."},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Rana spowodowana nadu\u017cyciami w Ko\u015bciele\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/WHX_k8KTZ4Q?start=31&#038;feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Po po\u0142udniu 24 pa\u017adziernika sala wyk\u0142adowa kampusu podyplomowego Uniwersytetu Nawarry w Madrycie wype\u0142ni\u0142a si\u0119 lud\u017ami, kt\u00f3rzy przyszli pos\u0142ucha\u0107 Fabrice'a Hadjadja, francuskiego pisarza i filozofa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hadjadj jest autorem takich dzie\u0142 jak \"The Faith of Demons\", \"Paradise at the Door\" i \"The Faith of Demons\".<a href=\"https:\/\/edicionesencuentro.com\/libro\/lobos-disfrazados-de-corderos\/\">Wilki w owczej sk\u00f3rze<\/a>\". W tej najnowszej ksi\u0105\u017cce my\u015bliciel zastanawia si\u0119 nad duchowymi nadu\u017cyciami w Ko\u015bciele i pr\u00f3buje rozwik\u0142a\u0107 przyczyny tego z\u0142a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Podczas Forum, zorganizowanego wsp\u00f3lnie z <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unav.edu\/web\/master-en-cristianismo-y-cultura-contemporanea\">Magister chrze\u015bcija\u0144stwa i kultury wsp\u00f3\u0142czesnej na Uniwersytecie Nawarry <\/a>i Ediciones Encuentro, Fabrice przeprowadzi\u0142 rozmow\u0119 z dziennikarzem Joseb\u0105 Louzao. Pytania zadawane publiczno\u015bci by\u0142y r\u00f3\u017cnorodne i g\u0142\u0119bokie, pocz\u0105wszy od infantylizacji wiary, po boskie synostwo i oczywi\u015bcie duchowe nadu\u017cycia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Niejednoznaczne kategorie<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hadjadj zauwa\u017cy\u0142, \u017ce niekt\u00f3rzy dziennikarze stwierdzili, \u017ce jego ksi\u0105\u017cka na temat nadu\u017cy\u0107 duchowych nie opowiada si\u0119 po stronie ofiar. \"Nie, poniewa\u017c istniej\u0105 ju\u017c ksi\u0105\u017cki, kt\u00f3re przyjmuj\u0105 tak\u0105 perspektyw\u0119. Zrobi\u0142em co\u015b innego, podszed\u0142em do sprawy od strony sprawc\u00f3w. Jest pewna \u0142atwa pozycja, kt\u00f3rej chc\u0119 unikn\u0105\u0107, a mianowicie opowiedzenie si\u0119 po stronie ofiar. Jestem \u017bydem, ale nigdy nie chcia\u0142em stawa\u0107 po stronie ofiar i nie zamierzam tego robi\u0107 teraz. Jeste\u015bmy zaanga\u017cowani w rodzaj religii ofiary: poniewa\u017c jestem ofiar\u0105, jestem niewinny. Poniewa\u017c jestem ofiar\u0105, to co m\u00f3wi\u0119 jest prawd\u0105 absolutn\u0105. Ale z jednej strony jest tylko jedna ofiara i niewinny, kt\u00f3rym jest Chrystus, a po drugie, trauma mo\u017ce sprawi\u0107, \u017ce kto\u015b r\u00f3wnie\u017c przyjmie agresywn\u0105 postaw\u0119\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W ostatnich minutach rozmowy Fabrice m\u00f3wi\u0142 o relacji mi\u0119dzy ofiar\u0105 a krzywdzicielem, zauwa\u017caj\u0105c, \u017ce w przypadkach nadu\u017cy\u0107 duchowych \"kategoria krzywdziciela i krzywdzonego nie do ko\u0144ca dzia\u0142a\". To rozr\u00f3\u017cnienie jest \"bardziej niejasne\" i rodzi pytanie: \"Jaka jest nasza rola, w kt\u00f3rej nast\u0105pi\u0142a zgoda?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W duchowej relacji ojciec-syn, wyja\u015bni\u0142 Fabrice, nawet je\u015bli mo\u017cemy potwierdzi\u0107, \u017ce istnieje nadu\u017cycie ze strony ojca, musimy r\u00f3wnie\u017c uzna\u0107, \u017ce syn w wielu przypadkach zgadza si\u0119 na pewne zaloty. A kiedy zaczynamy rozeznawa\u0107, co si\u0119 sta\u0142o, Hadjajd powiedzia\u0142: \"nie mo\u017cemy my\u015ble\u0107, \u017ce ten, kto jest ofiar\u0105, jest bezpo\u015brednio niewinny\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Odszkodowanie nie leczy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Z drugiej strony Fabrice wskaza\u0142, \u017ce odszkodowanie nie wystarczy, aby uratowa\u0107 ofiary. Te p\u0142atno\u015bci s\u0105 rozwi\u0105zaniami cywilnymi, kt\u00f3re nie ko\u0144cz\u0105 duchowego nawr\u00f3cenia niezb\u0119dnego do uzdrowienia osoby, kt\u00f3ra pad\u0142a ofiar\u0105 molestowania.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Interwencja Chrystusa i Jego s\u0142owa jest konieczna, niezb\u0119dna. S\u0142owo, s\u0142owo Jezusa, kt\u00f3re jest oczyszczone, a nie jak s\u0142owo ofiary lub jak s\u0142owa, kt\u00f3rych u\u017cywamy do m\u00f3wienia o nadu\u017cyciach.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Oczyszczenie s\u0142owa<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W tym samym sensie \"s\u0142owo, kt\u00f3re rodzi si\u0119 z traumy, jest s\u0142owem, kt\u00f3re r\u00f3wnie\u017c musi zosta\u0107 oczyszczone\". Oczyszczone nie tylko pod wzgl\u0119dem doznanego nadu\u017cycia, ale tak\u017ce pod wzgl\u0119dem ca\u0142ego do\u015bwiadczenia duchowego. \"Z\u0142o, kt\u00f3rego do\u015bwiadczy\u0142a osoba molestowana duchowo, powoduje, \u017ce sama wizja duchowo\u015bci tej osoby jest zdeformowana\", kontynuowa\u0142 Hadjadj, \"musimy s\u0142ucha\u0107 tego s\u0142owa, ale nie mo\u017cemy zapomnie\u0107 o s\u0142owie Chrystusa i musimy dokona\u0107 oczyszczenia\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u0142owo Chrystusa pozwala nam r\u00f3wnie\u017c \"pozby\u0107 si\u0119 wszelkich niejasno\u015bci\", je\u015bli chodzi o wy\u017cej wymienione kategorie krzywdziciela i krzywdzonego. Jest to mo\u017cliwe dzi\u0119ki zaufaniu Jezusowi jako \"ofierze, kt\u00f3ra przychodzi, aby nas zbawi\u0107\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fabrice zako\u0144czy\u0142 swoje wyst\u0105pienie, wskazuj\u0105c, \u017ce musimy \"uzna\u0107, \u017ce osoby, kt\u00f3re dopu\u015bci\u0142y si\u0119 nadu\u017cy\u0107, mog\u0142y przekaza\u0107 ludziom prawdziwe \u0142aski\". W tym sensie musimy \"zachowa\u0107 dobro, odrzuci\u0107 z\u0142o i wiedzie\u0107, \u017ce jeste\u015bmy zbawieni od momentu, gdy uznamy, \u017ce nie jeste\u015bmy tylko ofiarami\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prenumeratorzy magazynu Omnes b\u0119d\u0105 mogli przeczyta\u0107 pe\u0142n\u0105 relacj\u0119 ze wszystkimi szczeg\u00f3\u0142ami rozmowy z Fabrice Hadjadj w nowym numerze z listopada 2024 roku. Je\u015bli nie jeste\u015b subskrybentem magazynu, a chcia\u0142by\u015b otrzyma\u0107 kolejny numer, mo\u017cesz go zaprenumerowa\u0107. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.omnesmag.com\/pl\/subskrypcja\/\">tutaj<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>El 24 de octubre por la tarde la sede de posgrado de la Universidad de Navarra en Madrid observ\u00f3 c\u00f3mo su aula magna se llenaba de personas que acudieron a escuchar a Fabrice Hadjadj, escritor y fil\u00f3sofo franc\u00e9s. Hadjadj es autor de obras como \u201cLa fe de los demonios\u201d, \u201cEl para\u00edso en la puerta\u201d o [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1436,"featured_media":42740,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[36,42],"tags":[623,1695,630],"class_list":["post-42733","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualidad","category-experiencias","tag-abusos","tag-fabrice-hadjadj","tag-foro-omnes"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Fabrice Hadjadj: &quot;Puede ser que los abusadores comuniquen gracias verdaderas&quot;<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"El 24 de octubre Fabrice Hadjadj fue el protagonista del Foro Omnes sobre la herida de los abusos en la 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